Listen to the Podcast About Seabird Ocean Resort & Spa AND The Mission Pacific Beach Resort

Podcast for Seabird Ocean Resort & Spa AND The Mission Pacific Beach Resort

Podcast Summary

In the recent episode of Eventful Endeavors, host Shawn Grindle had a riveting conversation with Rebecca Venturi, the venue manager of two key Southern California coastal properties – Seabird Ocean Resort & Spa and The Mission Pacific Beach Resort. The dialogue largely revolved around her journey into the event industry and her fondness for waterfront weddings.

Rebecca unveiled a unique story of how she transitioned from the corporate world of Microsoft to the more dynamic and vibrant event industry. Her initial passion for hairstyling for weddings slowly steered towards wanting to be a part of the whole wedding spectacle. Rebecca reminisced about how a casual comment about loving to organize fun events landed her a job with the director of events.

A common trend in Rebecca’s career has been her association with waterfront venues. Having above 20,000 square feet of event space at the Seabird Ocean Resort & Spa and The Mission Pacific Beach Resort, she manages multiple concepts across the properties. Known for their panoramic views of the Pacific Ocean, these venues offer several event spaces, including the popularly opted for Grand Coastal Ballroom, the Seagaze Salon, and the Grand Coastal Foyer and Terrace.

Enchanting spaces coupled with Rebecca’s passion for the industry and her knack for curating spectacular events make Seabird Ocean Resort & Spa and The Mission Pacific Beach Resort sought-after venues. Her belief in the charm and attraction of seaside venues adds to the venues’ allure, making them top choices for weddings in Southern California.

This catch-up with Rebecca Venturi offered insider details about the journey from Seattle to Southern California’s best beach resorts, shed light on the invitation to the world of events – and reaffirmed the magic of waterfront weddings at Seabird Ocean Resort & Spa and The Mission Pacific Beach Resort.

Learn more about Seabird Ocean Resort & Spa AND The Mission Pacific Beach Resort

This interview was provided by Felix and Fingers Dueling Pianos

Podcast Transcript

Shawn Grindle (00:24)
Alright, welcome back to another episode of eventful endeavors. Today we are going back to Southern California. We are going to the coast. We’re going to be talking to Rebecca Venturi, who is the venue manager at two venues right on the ocean here, the Seabird Ocean Resort & Spa and The Mission Pacific Beach Resort. Rebecca, first of all, thank you for being here today.

Rebecca Venturi (00:45)
Yeah, thank you so much for having me. This is so fun.

Shawn Grindle (00:49)
So I didn’t realize you actually are the venue manager at two venues, which seems like, that seems like a lot, a lot of stuff going on. Cause they’re both pretty large venues, yeah?

Rebecca Venturi (00:59)
So yeah, you know, I think it might seem like that, but they technically are boutique properties. So I kind of treat it as one big property, which is nice. We just have two concepts to play with. So.

Shawn Grindle (01:06)
Okay. Sure.

at you. So I always like to kind of start things off by asking everybody the same kind of question, which is kind of how you got into this industry. You know, what was the what’s your story? What’s your background? Where did you how did you end up doing events?

Rebecca Venturi (01:24)
Yeah, it’s actually a very strange story, but I’ll just I’ll keep it brief. So I’m from Seattle and I was I’d been in the hospitality industry since I got out of college. I tried a brief stint at Microsoft and it was like not for me. And I thought, well, you know, I really love weddings and playing with hair. And I thought, well, I just want to do wedding hair. So I went to cosmetology school because I thought I was going to do.

hair and makeup for weddings and what it really turned out to be is that I just want to be part of the wedding. And so through my background in hospitality, I was a sommelier, didn’t want to do that anymore. And I worked at a property that had event space and predominantly doing weddings in the waterfront. And I made a comment one day to one of the sales girls that I just wanted to go to work and be cute and make.

fun events and the next day the director of events said, I heard you wanted to come work with us. And so that was it. And that’s how it happened. So I just, just right place, right time.

Shawn Grindle (02:32)
And you wrote down here that you really do an emphasis on waterfront weddings. So what’s the reason? Do you just love the ocean? Did that just kind of start where you’re like, I guess I’m just the waterfront venue manager?

Rebecca Venturi (02:44)
I guess so. It’s never been intentional, although apparently it’s subconscious, right? Every single wedding venue that I have been a part of has been on the waterfront. If not in San Diego, it’s Seattle. I’ve been drawn to the water as a child. I’m a Pisces. I don’t know if that has anything to do with it. I wanted to be a mermaid growing up, so.

Shawn Grindle (03:06)
Sure, I think, yeah. Yeah. Well, I can speak firsthand. I mean, I know, I don’t think I’ve ever been to The Mission Pacific Beach Resort, but I’ve played the Sea Bird many times and I can speak to it as a, it’s a really pretty place, great views right down there in Oceanside. So it’s fantastic. But I did want to ask just about the venue itself, because I feel like every time I’ve played down there, I’m playing in a new room.

Like it’s like a thing I didn’t know existed. So how many event spaces do you actually have like at these hotels? Like especially between the two of them.

Rebecca Venturi (03:41)
Quite a few, actually. Yeah, surprisingly quite a few. Over 20 ,000 square feet of event space. And with the two properties, we’re playing with multiple different concepts. So predominantly the Grand Coastal Ballroom over at Sea Bird, the Seagaze Salon, our Grand Coastal Foyer and Terrace. Those are very popular wedding spaces that are ocean facing. So you’ve got this beautiful, sparkling Pacific Ocean backdrop with the…

trees. It’s just a quintessential Southern California vibe. Sea Bird’s beautiful because it’s lovely, timeless, coastal California chic, right? Classic nautical kind of themes throughout the entire hotel, which is really easy to draw from inspiration and play with for your event. And then over at Mission Pacific, we predominantly host weddings in the Pacific Garden.

with kind of partial ocean views, but really drawing in on the garden feel, which is actually located right behind the iconic and famous Top Gun house, which was featured in the, yeah, it was featured in the first Top Gun movie. So we actually have that on our property at Mission Pacific. So our couples can say, I do, right? Where Tom Cruise and the Top Gun fame all started.

Shawn Grindle (04:47)
nice.

Rebecca Venturi (05:03)
and then our reception.

Shawn Grindle (05:04)
Have you guys done any top gun themed events? I feel like those have been very in right now.

Rebecca Venturi (05:10)
my gosh, yes, we have. They are, and especially in Southern California, because we have California Tom Cruise. And I don’t know if you’re familiar with him, but he has graced us with his presence at multiple events, and it’s always a fun time. So.

Shawn Grindle (05:32)
Wow, that’s amazing. Yeah, I didn’t mean to cut you off. I just, I know that those are in right now and I had no idea you guys are right next to the Top Gun house, so.

Rebecca Venturi (05:39)
Yeah, yeah, it’s actually part of part of our properties. It’s it’s a pie shop now. It’s managed by F10 catering, which is they’ve got a lot of spots out in Palm Springs in that area. But so we’ve got a cute little pie shop that’s Top Gun themed and try to always incorporate that if we can into our into our conversations.

Shawn Grindle (06:01)
Yeah.

Do you guys do, so is it mostly weddings? Is it mostly corporate events? Is it a little mix of both? And how are you involved? Are you mostly doing the weddings or what’s your kind of specialty with all that?

Rebecca Venturi (06:13)
Yeah, I only do weddings. So I am the wedding specialist for both properties and I do anything wedding related from bachelorette parties, engagement parties, rehearsal dinners, farewell brunches, anything that has to do with a wedding, even bowel renewals. I’m the person that you’re talking to. But both properties do have a heavy emphasis on corporate travel. So I would say that predominantly we are in the corporate space in the

Shawn Grindle (06:16)
Gotcha.

Rebecca Venturi (06:41)
leisure travel as well. However, the wedding segment is very popular at our properties. So I think I contend with them pretty, pretty well. But it’s fun.

Shawn Grindle (06:53)
Yeah. Well, and it’s, it’s a beautiful spot. I mean, I imagine mostly you almost always do the ceremonies outside, right? Unless there’s like weather or something, but it seems like you have a lot of great like lawns that overlook the ocean. That’s where you can kind of do your ceremony, right? And then move inside and start partying.

Rebecca Venturi (07:09)
Yeah, exactly. The nice thing about that is like technically Oceanside does have an outdoor noise ordinance that starts at 10 p but our interior spaces we have weddings go until 1 a so we’re not limited whereas a lot of properties are with the noise ordinance. We like to keep the party going. This is a lifestyle resort on both sides so we’re here for the party.

Shawn Grindle (07:35)
Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. So let’s talk weddings then, because you’ve obviously been involved. I mean, I assume you are involved heavily in kind of like the planning process since they often find their venue first. And then you’re kind of with them for probably a year and a half for a lot of these couples, right? Until they kind of put the thing together. So, What’s your kind of number one piece of advice for people that are just kind of starting out their wedding planning journey?

Rebecca Venturi (07:52)
Yeah.

You know, I think that a lot of couples put a lot of pressure on themselves to do everything in a short period of time, even though they have a lot of time. And I really think that the whole planning of the wedding should be enjoyed. And I know that’s easier to say than to do, but it really is a once in a lifetime experience. And there are a lot of decisions to be made and they don’t necessarily need to be made under.

under a short period of time. I think there’s something to be enjoyed about that specific creation of this moment and this memory that they’re putting together. And I think that it’s really just about enjoying this season of their life, right?

Shawn Grindle (08:44)
Yeah, I think that’s great. And I think it’s easy to forget that. I love planning my wedding. I had a lot of fun. I mean, it can be stressful, but you’re planning a party. It’s just a very big, very expensive party. But yeah, I like that. I think it’s easy for people to forget. Kind of just like, find ways to enjoy this and whatnot. And do you, when you work with these couples early on, like, you know,

Rebecca Venturi (08:59)
Yeah.

Shawn Grindle (09:13)
And I, you know, how do I phrase this question? Well, what’s the, you know, you’re not a wedding planner, you’re the venue manager. So What’s the difference kind of there? Like, where do you kind of sit like, because I’m sure in many ways you are involved in the planning, but like, what kind of differentiates you from like a wedding plan?

Rebecca Venturi (09:30)
Yeah, that’s actually a really good question. So my role is to basically manage everything that happens on the venue side once the wedding is planned. So our couples work with their wedding planner to do design, to organize and decide who their vendors are going to be, to organize and decide what the timeline is going to look like. All of those little fine details. They’re doing invitations. They’re…

you know, organizing the things on the outside of what happens at the hotels. And once they’ve kind of put this plan all into place, then they give it to me and they say, please make a memory out of this and make sure it goes smoothly. And so, and that’s really my job. My job is to work with our team to make sure that we’re executing their event flawlessly and we’re, you know, paying attention and giving respect to their vision.

Shawn Grindle (10:13)
Yeah.

Rebecca Venturi (10:27)
and we’re making sure that it comes to life. So we’re basically the doers of the dream.

Shawn Grindle (10:34)
Yeah, and because of that, Do you guys require a wedding planner at the venue?

Rebecca Venturi (10:38)
We do require a wedding planner. You know, I’ve worked at venues where I was the sales manager and the planner and the operations side as well. but with the level of weddings that we do here and me just being one person, requiring a planner is it’s essential. And two, the couple gets a lot more out of that because they’re really basically getting representation of both sides, which is essential to having a flawless event. So.

Shawn Grindle (11:08)
Yeah, and that’s good. I mean, my wedding, when I got married, they were like, you need a wedding planner. I was like, really? And then I was like, yeah, you’re right. I did. Thank you for that. Thank you for telling me you were correct. So speaking of weddings, so obviously weddings have changed a lot, even in the pre -COVID world, post -COVID world. There’s been a lot of things I’ve noticed that have been very different. So What are some of the current trends you’re kind of seeing going on right now?

Rebecca Venturi (11:17)
Yeah.

Shawn Grindle (11:35)
Either things that may be used to happen that now are not happening at all, or things that used to never happen, but now everybody seems to be doing. Is there anything you’ve noticed?

Rebecca Venturi (11:44)
You know, I think speaking in terms of, you know, COVID and how it changed weddings, the funny thing about people is they like to be together, no matter what anyone wants to tell you. And people are gonna find ways to come together and celebrate. And so during COVID, obviously there were a lot of things you weren’t allowed to do. And I’m not seeing any of those trends that popped up during COVID sticking around, whereas it was like,

a lot of social distance dancing and silent discos and a lot of video streaming and things like that. I think that all kind of went away and people are back to being very much together in celebration. So when we talk about trends around here, we’re really actually seeing aesthetic changes.

Shawn Grindle (12:18)
Yeah.

Rebecca Venturi (12:36)
versus things that maybe are based in regulation. Obviously there’s a lot more care that goes into the planning of events because we do still have clients that are cognizant of what happens in the scenario that something like COVID were to happen again, right? And so I think there’s a lot more contingency plans coming up. Well, what if this happens and what if this happens? So we’re more mindful on the backend operationally about pivoting.

and pivoting in short timeframes. So that is still a thing, but I think that we’ve all learned so well to do, you know, make changes in such a short period of time and that it’s almost second nature. I don’t really think of it as a trend anymore, but part of the process. But in terms of visual aesthetics, what we’re seeing is a lot more color, whereas before everything was white and monochromatic and…

Shawn Grindle (13:07)
Yeah.

Rebecca Venturi (13:34)
green and you’ve got these very neutral color palettes but this year is trending towards bright bright colors and creativity and I just love it.

Shawn Grindle (13:43)
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. A lot of colors. I’ve noticed a lot of hot pink recently. There’s been a lot of pink weddings I’ve done. Like a lot of like bright like that’s been great.

Rebecca Venturi (13:54)
Yeah, you know, and I’m all for it. I mean, we have kind of a tropical coastline with the palm trees and things like that. So it really works well at our venues. I love the bright pinks. I love the oranges, the bright greens and blues. I think that from a fashion standpoint, we are seeing a lot of those brighter kind of tropical colors being tied into weddings just as a whole. And I think that the trends in other industries are going that way as well. So it’s really cool to see that come together.

Shawn Grindle (14:19)
Yeah.

Yeah, I like that. What’s the most unique thing you’ve ever seen at a wedding? First thing that pops into your head, like something that was like, that was so cool.

Rebecca Venturi (14:33)
Okay, so I think, so last year we had a couple that did an epic first dance and it was completely choreographed, but it started out as a song. So I can’t remember the song, but it’s that song. It’s like, I love you always forever, even far, we’re still together. I don’t remember the name of the song.

Shawn Grindle (14:43)
Okay.

yeah, yeah, it’s gonna drive me crazy, the artist, but yeah, I know exactly what you’re talking about.

Rebecca Venturi (15:00)
We’ll figure it out. Is that Donna Summer? I don’t know. I’m gonna get roasted for this.

Shawn Grindle (15:05)
No, it’s like, it was a 90s song, I think. Yeah, and I should know it, it’s my job to know music, so it’s really bad. Yeah. Yeah.

Rebecca Venturi (15:09)
Yeah.

yeah, we’ll figure it out. So they had their officiants who were, I believe, actresses. And they had this whole comedy routine and then they broke out in the song and then they invited one half of the couple to come sing with them this song. And so they started singing this song and we all thought that it was going to be just a ballad. And then they broke out into this choreographed dance.

And it was epic. And not only was it their first dance, but it was also how they opened up the dance floor and then they brought everyone else onto the floor to dance with them. And it was so cool. And obviously we see choreographed dances all the time, but this particular one was like a surprise and delight because you didn’t really see it going that way. So that was super.

Shawn Grindle (15:43)
Wow.

Wow.

Rebecca Venturi (16:07)
Another one that is popular at our hotel are speakeasies. This has been coming, this is coming a trend in weddings. And I really, really love that. So we have a library space on the Seabird side that has this very Gatsby energy, which I love. And it’s beautifully adorned with just signature furniture pieces, beautiful books, beautiful bookshelves. And it works really well as a speakeasy bar. So I’ve got some couples doing that this year, which is fun.

Shawn Grindle (16:35)
That’s pretty cool. I feel like I might’ve played there. That sounds familiar. That sounds like a familiar space, but I think I’m a very speakeasy kind of guy, so I could’ve been in there. But yeah, that’s cool. I love a good, I am a sucker for a good choreographed first dance. I mean, a good choreographed first dance. I’ve seen some where I’m like, well, didn’t go well. But yeah, that’s really cool. I like that. That makes me just think the couple’s just awesome. You know?

Rebecca Venturi (16:38)
You probably did.

they were so awesome. They were probably one of my most favorite couples. I don’t have favorites, but if I did.

Shawn Grindle (17:04)
Yeah.

Because then you know if they’re doing that kind of thing, you know that they’re there to entertain their guests. That’s what they’re there for, and I love that.

Rebecca Venturi (17:15)
for sure, for sure. And the entire thing was from the vows to, you know, the entire ceremony dialogue, all of it was entertainment and it was the best and everyone was dressed to the nines. I mean, it was such a.

Shawn Grindle (17:18)
Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, I love that. So kind of the opposite of that, what are some things that are just like, the cringe -worthy, don’t do this if you’re planning a wedding, things that seem like a good idea in theory, but then it’s like, I know this, this isn’t gonna work. What are the things you’d say like, please don’t do, no couples should do?

Rebecca Venturi (17:48)
Yeah, so from a venue perspective, specifically regarding weddings, the biggest challenges that I see over and over again relate to the menu meal cards, the escort cards, over the top menu that matches exactly what that guest ordered. So it’s like personalized menus down to that person’s name and their order.

which is nice in theory, but the design elements of those pieces are often not functional for event space. Really, when you’re talking about dim lighting and so the server’s trying to get the right meal to the right person can go awry when you’ve got salmon meal indicators and light pink meal indicators and in that lighting, they just look the same. And this has been happening over and over and over again.

I can’t get the wedding planners off of this trend. And it’s like, your colored menu is not doing anyone any services. It’s pretty in photos, I’m sure, but functionally doesn’t work. Yeah.

Shawn Grindle (18:52)
Really?

Yeah, I’ve seen that before, but as somebody who doesn’t work at the venue or in the catering department, I’ve never thought about what it kind of, how it can actually make things worse.

Rebecca Venturi (19:11)
It is not helpful and it actually delays service because our servers spend more time going around making sure that they’re getting the meals correct. You know, we, we pride ourselves on elevated service here. We’re not, you know, everything’s plated and then going out to, to the tables. We’re not holding things around in a hot box somewhere. Everything is very thoughtful and curated. And so when we’re trying to provide an elevated service in our event,

every detail that we can set aside ahead of time to ensure that success is crucial. And the more time we have to take to make sure that everything is right, it ends up kind of messing up the flow of things.

Shawn Grindle (19:57)
Yeah, that makes sense and that also kind of answers a question I was gonna ask later. So you guys do have all the catering in house, right? So they don’t have to bring in they probably can’t bring in any outside catering like it’s all done through you guys.

Rebecca Venturi (20:08)
Right, everything is done through us. We do make exceptions for religious and cultural designations, of course. I mean, we definitely support different cultural catering and different religious catering. So we offer packages that speak to that.

Shawn Grindle (20:15)
sure.

So, let me ask you this just as we kind of start to wrap things up, you know, with your venues down there, like what would you say is kind of the most unique thing about them? What either you like working there or what you think attracts people to them the most?

Rebecca Venturi (20:43)
The best thing about being an Oceanside and being at the Sea Bird and Mission Pacific is just that we are in the quintessential beach town, right? We are inundated with surf culture and we’re nestled right between LA, Orange County and San Diego, right? And so we speak to a wide variety of couples where maybe they wanna get that Southern California experience and be right on the beach, but they maybe want it to be a little bit more elevated like something you’re gonna see in Orange County.

Shawn Grindle (20:53)
Yeah.

Rebecca Venturi (21:14)
lay, but maybe their budget’s somewhere in between. And so we can provide that right here. You have these beautiful unobstructed views. We’re located right in front of the iconic Oceanside Pier. Beautiful waves, palm trees. When I think of a Southern California postcard, this is what it is. It’s Oceanside and it’s these resorts.

Shawn Grindle (21:37)
Yeah.

Rebecca Venturi (21:38)
There’s something for everyone, you know, if the timeless classic coastal chic isn’t up your alley, Mission Pacific provides a little bit more of a sexier vibe for couples that really are just looking for maybe the nightlife element. Maybe they want to just get away and they’re not really necessarily interested in that timeless classic wedding. We can definitely do something that’s a little bit more moody and, and I would say on trend in terms of just like a kind of a spicy, sexy event.

Shawn Grindle (22:08)
And it’s also you’re at a hotel so it’s great people can stay there. They can just stay at the venue location so it you know, it makes things a lot easier for people having their event there. Yeah

Rebecca Venturi (22:21)
For sure. And truly, I mean, for many reasons, I mean, obviously it provides a level of safety and comfort and we can kind of keep track of everyone, but there is no shortage of things to do that keep you entertained. I mean, your guests can wake up the day before the wedding and enjoy like craft cocktails by either one of our pools that are overlooking the ocean and then go catch a private surf lesson by our surf pro. I mean, and then, you know, we’ve got…

Shawn Grindle (22:47)
Yeah.

Rebecca Venturi (22:50)
yoga, overlooking the waterfront. We’ve got a phenomenal spa, Sunny’s Spa over at Seabird. It was voted number two in the country, which is pretty amazing. And like, that’s a big deal. USA Today. Yeah. And so, you know, and then we’ve got a phenomenal dining atmosphere as well. We’ve got a Michelin star restaurant on our property. We are the only Hyatt.

Shawn Grindle (23:02)
Wow, that’s pretty good. That’s pretty good. There’s a lot of spots in the country. Yeah. I’ll take it.

Rebecca Venturi (23:20)
in the United States to have a Michelin star. And we’re the only Michelin star in Oceanside. So Valle, it’s helmed by Chef Roberto Alcácer from Valle de Guadalupe. And it features, you know, yeah, coastal Mexican cuisine, really with the heart and soul of the Valle de Guadalupe as inspiration. So it’s really cool. We’ve got a lot to draw from here. And again, no shortage of entertainment.

Shawn Grindle (23:48)
Of course. And I love ocean. I’ve always loved Oceanside. I think it’s a very, it’s just like, it’s almost like a small town coastal vibe on the, on the sea there. And I’ve always loved it. So I do love that there’s such cool, fun venues down there. And I think anybody looking to get their seaside wedding in should definitely check out that area, you know, because yeah, it’s, it’s beautiful down there. And I, I look forward to the next time I get to come down there and play. So.

Rebecca Venturi (24:15)
Absolutely. Well, we’d love to have you back. And actually, I did just find out that we are offering a promotion to anyone that’s watching your podcast. So, yeah, I don’t know if any of your viewers are Bachelor Nation Bachelorette fans, but we were featured on season 18 of The Bachelorette. And so we have a little fantasy suite action.

Shawn Grindle (24:24)
Ooh, let’s hear it.

Nice?

Rebecca Venturi (24:43)
with an opportunity to have an overnight stay in our beautiful ocean -facing sanctuary suite for 20 % off. So if any of your viewers would like to take advantage of that, I highly recommend you can book online at misschapacific .com. But we would love to have any of your viewers as a guest. We could do private tours and we can show you all the spaces where we filmed.

Shawn Grindle (24:54)
Ow.

I think I’m gonna go back and watch. I viewed it. That sounds awesome.

Rebecca Venturi (25:10)
Yeah, yeah, watch it again because yeah, so much fun. So and we’d love to give, we’d love to give tours and talk about it. Yeah, for sure.

Shawn Grindle (25:17)
Well, we’re gonna promote the hell out of that.

Yeah, we’ll definitely promote that to all the all the folks get married out there because that’s a great deal. Go take a little staycation. Go down there. Check out the venue. And yeah, you won’t be disappointed. This is fantastic place. Well, listen, that’s all I really had. So before we wrap it up, is there anything else you kind of want to say anything else we didn’t touch on anything else you want to mention about the venue about, you know, life anything?

Rebecca Venturi (25:46)
Well, I just wanted to say thank you for letting me be an opportunity or having this opportunity to kind of hang out with you and chat a little bit about the wedding industry and our beautiful hotels. We’re looking forward to this wedding season. We have a lot on the calendar. And so it’s going to be a fun year. And, you know, as we grow in Oceanside and become a bigger part of the community, we’re just looking forward to welcoming new guests and couples. So.

We’re super grateful for the opportunity, so thank you.

Shawn Grindle (26:18)
Yeah, absolutely and thank you for doing this and we’ll link to all your social media stuff, the promotions, all that stuff so people know where to kind of find you and how to get down there and check it out because yeah, it’s a fantastic spot and it’s one of my favorite places to play in Southern California. So, highly recommend just going down there even just for a vacation. Just go, it’s great. Yeah, let’s do it. Yeah, sure. All right, well.

Rebecca Venturi (26:40)
Do it, let me know. Reach out to me, I’ll give you a tour. Sounds good.

Shawn Grindle (26:47)
Thank you very much. I’m going to say bye to you. Yeah, and it’s been a real pleasure getting to talk to you. So you have a great rest of your day.

Rebecca Venturi (26:57)
You too, Shawn. Thank you.

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